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#the best argument against the bible is the bible 

I don’t typically go out of my way to talk to people about things concerning my faith because it is a very personal subject for me. But I’m tired of people going “Oh, look, silly bible quotes that make God look terrible because I gave no context! Silly Christians!”
I would like to say that these are all seriously taken out of context. So I went through and tried to give a better understanding of what’s going on in each.
Please do me the favor of at least glancing at what I have to say. Even if you don’t believe in the Bible (or whatever), this isn’t really a case of theology. That’s not why I wrote it. This is a case of people jumping to conclusions without actually knowing what they’re talking about. 
Psalm 137:9
-In this psalm a prisoner has asked his captives to sing him a “Song of Zion.” The men sitting around become distressed because they have forgotten this song which should be dear to them. They start feeling terrible about it and begin talking about themselves in a sarcastic and mocking way. “Blessed is the one who grabs your little children and smashes them against a rock” is something they are saying about themselves. That the Lord is still good to them even though they continue to take what he has given them for granted, which they are comparing to smashing little children into rocks.
1 Timothy 2:12
For this one, the cultural roles of men and women should be taken into consideration at the time. Then, it was a man’s place to teach, not a woman’s. Most everything in the New Testament (Which the 1 and 2 Timothy are) are all just letters written to the churches from the apostles and so of course there are going to be cultural values put into what was taught then.
Deuteronomy 22:28
Alright, there’s a little more back story to this one but I won’t make it long. At this time, the tribes of Israel were wandering around doing whatever they wanted because they were out in the middle of the desert with no King and no law. God saw it and so began to lay some things down. Now, getting into the actual message itself, again, we need to keep in mind cultural views at the time. Women were a lot of times used as collateral and ‘bargaining chips’ when it came to marriage. In exchange for a wife, men or the man’s family would trade goods/money/etc… to the father. However, if a woman was not a virgin, the deal was pretty much off and she could forget about ever getting married. If a woman lost her virginity to rape, not only did that man take steal an emotional part of her away, he also took her future. This law was set in place so that if a woman did lose her virginity due to rape, that man would have to compensate her and her family because she was now worth very little to any potential husband. So again, cultural values are what is being discussed here, not values set by the Lord.
Leviticus 25:44
This is another verse that pertains to society at the time but I took the time to look it up to. In all three (different) versions of the bible I looked through, this verse is very different from what’s on the billboard. All it says in the three I looked at is something to the effect of you can buy slaves from foreign lands but you can’t force your own people into slavery. It’s a message you wouldn’t understand, though, if you only read that verse and not the ones before it. Again, this is a law set down simply to regulate the people of the time based on what they thought was okay. It’s not a direct commandment from God and in fact there are a few occasions where God has said in the bible that he does not like slavery. The point of these laws is that God knew people were going to do what they wanted regardless of what God had to say so the best he could do was regulate it.
Ezekiel 9:5
The whole book of Ezekiel is about visions that Ezekiel saw. In this particular one God had shown him a city and temple full of evil people who practiced “abominable” things and allowed demons and other monsters to “crawl about.” He is then commanded to wipe all of this out. Women were in on these practices as well as men and the children were taught to do the same to the point where there was probably no changing their up-bringing. It was an end all solution, but then again, it was only a vision or a ‘metaphor’ if you will for things that were to come later. It’s figurative, not literal.
Exodus 21:7
Another cultural thing. The message on the build board makes it sound like girls would never be released while the men would. This isn’t the case. When men were slaves, they had to work for seven years and then be released, but if a woman was a slave the man who bought her had to release her immediately and give the money back to whoever sold her if she wasn’t what he wanted her to be. He also had no right to re-sell her if he wanted to. It is explained later in these verses that this law was set in place in order to keep a guy from buying a woman slave, having his way with her once, and then selling her off to someone else or giving her back saying “Oh, she wasn’t what I wanted” because this is deceitful.
Ezekiel 21:33
God is speaking about a corrupt king who has committed many evil deeds and caused his children (the Israelites and such) much pain and sorrow. This is basically a war cry against an evil man who he plans to take down.
Numbers 25:4
Here, God is speaking about a few Israelites who started to commit sins against the Israelites and the Moab women of the surround region. They also started forming their own cults and such. Because he knows it is not everyone’s fault, just that of the groups who decided to do it, God is saying to Moses that he needs to take these criminals and put them out in the sun, away from everyone else so that his anger will only be turned against them and not everyone else around them too.
Yes. Without context these look pretty terrible… but if you actually took the time to see if that’s what was actually said, you’d find there’s a whole back story that you don’t know about which gives these verses entirely different meanings.
I am not trying to preach to you guys, I’m not trying to convince you of anything faith related, and I am by no means a biblical scholar. But I do know how to pick up a book and read what it actually has to say instead of picking out a few sentences and deciding that’s what the whole thing is about.
Please, don’t judge things (That goes for anything, not just this) until you actually know the full story.

THANK YOU.piixx:


#the best argument against the bible is the bible 

I don’t typically go out of my way to talk to people about things concerning my faith because it is a very personal subject for me. But I’m tired of people going “Oh, look, silly bible quotes that make God look terrible because I gave no context! Silly Christians!”
I would like to say that these are all seriously taken out of context. So I went through and tried to give a better understanding of what’s going on in each.
Please do me the favor of at least glancing at what I have to say. Even if you don’t believe in the Bible (or whatever), this isn’t really a case of theology. That’s not why I wrote it. This is a case of people jumping to conclusions without actually knowing what they’re talking about. 
Psalm 137:9
-In this psalm a prisoner has asked his captives to sing him a “Song of Zion.” The men sitting around become distressed because they have forgotten this song which should be dear to them. They start feeling terrible about it and begin talking about themselves in a sarcastic and mocking way. “Blessed is the one who grabs your little children and smashes them against a rock” is something they are saying about themselves. That the Lord is still good to them even though they continue to take what he has given them for granted, which they are comparing to smashing little children into rocks.
1 Timothy 2:12
For this one, the cultural roles of men and women should be taken into consideration at the time. Then, it was a man’s place to teach, not a woman’s. Most everything in the New Testament (Which the 1 and 2 Timothy are) are all just letters written to the churches from the apostles and so of course there are going to be cultural values put into what was taught then.
Deuteronomy 22:28
Alright, there’s a little more back story to this one but I won’t make it long. At this time, the tribes of Israel were wandering around doing whatever they wanted because they were out in the middle of the desert with no King and no law. God saw it and so began to lay some things down. Now, getting into the actual message itself, again, we need to keep in mind cultural views at the time. Women were a lot of times used as collateral and ‘bargaining chips’ when it came to marriage. In exchange for a wife, men or the man’s family would trade goods/money/etc… to the father. However, if a woman was not a virgin, the deal was pretty much off and she could forget about ever getting married. If a woman lost her virginity to rape, not only did that man take steal an emotional part of her away, he also took her future. This law was set in place so that if a woman did lose her virginity due to rape, that man would have to compensate her and her family because she was now worth very little to any potential husband. So again, cultural values are what is being discussed here, not values set by the Lord.
Leviticus 25:44
This is another verse that pertains to society at the time but I took the time to look it up to. In all three (different) versions of the bible I looked through, this verse is very different from what’s on the billboard. All it says in the three I looked at is something to the effect of you can buy slaves from foreign lands but you can’t force your own people into slavery. It’s a message you wouldn’t understand, though, if you only read that verse and not the ones before it. Again, this is a law set down simply to regulate the people of the time based on what they thought was okay. It’s not a direct commandment from God and in fact there are a few occasions where God has said in the bible that he does not like slavery. The point of these laws is that God knew people were going to do what they wanted regardless of what God had to say so the best he could do was regulate it.
Ezekiel 9:5
The whole book of Ezekiel is about visions that Ezekiel saw. In this particular one God had shown him a city and temple full of evil people who practiced “abominable” things and allowed demons and other monsters to “crawl about.” He is then commanded to wipe all of this out. Women were in on these practices as well as men and the children were taught to do the same to the point where there was probably no changing their up-bringing. It was an end all solution, but then again, it was only a vision or a ‘metaphor’ if you will for things that were to come later. It’s figurative, not literal.
Exodus 21:7
Another cultural thing. The message on the build board makes it sound like girls would never be released while the men would. This isn’t the case. When men were slaves, they had to work for seven years and then be released, but if a woman was a slave the man who bought her had to release her immediately and give the money back to whoever sold her if she wasn’t what he wanted her to be. He also had no right to re-sell her if he wanted to. It is explained later in these verses that this law was set in place in order to keep a guy from buying a woman slave, having his way with her once, and then selling her off to someone else or giving her back saying “Oh, she wasn’t what I wanted” because this is deceitful.
Ezekiel 21:33
God is speaking about a corrupt king who has committed many evil deeds and caused his children (the Israelites and such) much pain and sorrow. This is basically a war cry against an evil man who he plans to take down.
Numbers 25:4
Here, God is speaking about a few Israelites who started to commit sins against the Israelites and the Moab women of the surround region. They also started forming their own cults and such. Because he knows it is not everyone’s fault, just that of the groups who decided to do it, God is saying to Moses that he needs to take these criminals and put them out in the sun, away from everyone else so that his anger will only be turned against them and not everyone else around them too.
Yes. Without context these look pretty terrible… but if you actually took the time to see if that’s what was actually said, you’d find there’s a whole back story that you don’t know about which gives these verses entirely different meanings.
I am not trying to preach to you guys, I’m not trying to convince you of anything faith related, and I am by no means a biblical scholar. But I do know how to pick up a book and read what it actually has to say instead of picking out a few sentences and deciding that’s what the whole thing is about.
Please, don’t judge things (That goes for anything, not just this) until you actually know the full story.

THANK YOU.piixx:


#the best argument against the bible is the bible 

I don’t typically go out of my way to talk to people about things concerning my faith because it is a very personal subject for me. But I’m tired of people going “Oh, look, silly bible quotes that make God look terrible because I gave no context! Silly Christians!”
I would like to say that these are all seriously taken out of context. So I went through and tried to give a better understanding of what’s going on in each.
Please do me the favor of at least glancing at what I have to say. Even if you don’t believe in the Bible (or whatever), this isn’t really a case of theology. That’s not why I wrote it. This is a case of people jumping to conclusions without actually knowing what they’re talking about. 
Psalm 137:9
-In this psalm a prisoner has asked his captives to sing him a “Song of Zion.” The men sitting around become distressed because they have forgotten this song which should be dear to them. They start feeling terrible about it and begin talking about themselves in a sarcastic and mocking way. “Blessed is the one who grabs your little children and smashes them against a rock” is something they are saying about themselves. That the Lord is still good to them even though they continue to take what he has given them for granted, which they are comparing to smashing little children into rocks.
1 Timothy 2:12
For this one, the cultural roles of men and women should be taken into consideration at the time. Then, it was a man’s place to teach, not a woman’s. Most everything in the New Testament (Which the 1 and 2 Timothy are) are all just letters written to the churches from the apostles and so of course there are going to be cultural values put into what was taught then.
Deuteronomy 22:28
Alright, there’s a little more back story to this one but I won’t make it long. At this time, the tribes of Israel were wandering around doing whatever they wanted because they were out in the middle of the desert with no King and no law. God saw it and so began to lay some things down. Now, getting into the actual message itself, again, we need to keep in mind cultural views at the time. Women were a lot of times used as collateral and ‘bargaining chips’ when it came to marriage. In exchange for a wife, men or the man’s family would trade goods/money/etc… to the father. However, if a woman was not a virgin, the deal was pretty much off and she could forget about ever getting married. If a woman lost her virginity to rape, not only did that man take steal an emotional part of her away, he also took her future. This law was set in place so that if a woman did lose her virginity due to rape, that man would have to compensate her and her family because she was now worth very little to any potential husband. So again, cultural values are what is being discussed here, not values set by the Lord.
Leviticus 25:44
This is another verse that pertains to society at the time but I took the time to look it up to. In all three (different) versions of the bible I looked through, this verse is very different from what’s on the billboard. All it says in the three I looked at is something to the effect of you can buy slaves from foreign lands but you can’t force your own people into slavery. It’s a message you wouldn’t understand, though, if you only read that verse and not the ones before it. Again, this is a law set down simply to regulate the people of the time based on what they thought was okay. It’s not a direct commandment from God and in fact there are a few occasions where God has said in the bible that he does not like slavery. The point of these laws is that God knew people were going to do what they wanted regardless of what God had to say so the best he could do was regulate it.
Ezekiel 9:5
The whole book of Ezekiel is about visions that Ezekiel saw. In this particular one God had shown him a city and temple full of evil people who practiced “abominable” things and allowed demons and other monsters to “crawl about.” He is then commanded to wipe all of this out. Women were in on these practices as well as men and the children were taught to do the same to the point where there was probably no changing their up-bringing. It was an end all solution, but then again, it was only a vision or a ‘metaphor’ if you will for things that were to come later. It’s figurative, not literal.
Exodus 21:7
Another cultural thing. The message on the build board makes it sound like girls would never be released while the men would. This isn’t the case. When men were slaves, they had to work for seven years and then be released, but if a woman was a slave the man who bought her had to release her immediately and give the money back to whoever sold her if she wasn’t what he wanted her to be. He also had no right to re-sell her if he wanted to. It is explained later in these verses that this law was set in place in order to keep a guy from buying a woman slave, having his way with her once, and then selling her off to someone else or giving her back saying “Oh, she wasn’t what I wanted” because this is deceitful.
Ezekiel 21:33
God is speaking about a corrupt king who has committed many evil deeds and caused his children (the Israelites and such) much pain and sorrow. This is basically a war cry against an evil man who he plans to take down.
Numbers 25:4
Here, God is speaking about a few Israelites who started to commit sins against the Israelites and the Moab women of the surround region. They also started forming their own cults and such. Because he knows it is not everyone’s fault, just that of the groups who decided to do it, God is saying to Moses that he needs to take these criminals and put them out in the sun, away from everyone else so that his anger will only be turned against them and not everyone else around them too.
Yes. Without context these look pretty terrible… but if you actually took the time to see if that’s what was actually said, you’d find there’s a whole back story that you don’t know about which gives these verses entirely different meanings.
I am not trying to preach to you guys, I’m not trying to convince you of anything faith related, and I am by no means a biblical scholar. But I do know how to pick up a book and read what it actually has to say instead of picking out a few sentences and deciding that’s what the whole thing is about.
Please, don’t judge things (That goes for anything, not just this) until you actually know the full story.

THANK YOU.piixx:


#the best argument against the bible is the bible 

I don’t typically go out of my way to talk to people about things concerning my faith because it is a very personal subject for me. But I’m tired of people going “Oh, look, silly bible quotes that make God look terrible because I gave no context! Silly Christians!”
I would like to say that these are all seriously taken out of context. So I went through and tried to give a better understanding of what’s going on in each.
Please do me the favor of at least glancing at what I have to say. Even if you don’t believe in the Bible (or whatever), this isn’t really a case of theology. That’s not why I wrote it. This is a case of people jumping to conclusions without actually knowing what they’re talking about. 
Psalm 137:9
-In this psalm a prisoner has asked his captives to sing him a “Song of Zion.” The men sitting around become distressed because they have forgotten this song which should be dear to them. They start feeling terrible about it and begin talking about themselves in a sarcastic and mocking way. “Blessed is the one who grabs your little children and smashes them against a rock” is something they are saying about themselves. That the Lord is still good to them even though they continue to take what he has given them for granted, which they are comparing to smashing little children into rocks.
1 Timothy 2:12
For this one, the cultural roles of men and women should be taken into consideration at the time. Then, it was a man’s place to teach, not a woman’s. Most everything in the New Testament (Which the 1 and 2 Timothy are) are all just letters written to the churches from the apostles and so of course there are going to be cultural values put into what was taught then.
Deuteronomy 22:28
Alright, there’s a little more back story to this one but I won’t make it long. At this time, the tribes of Israel were wandering around doing whatever they wanted because they were out in the middle of the desert with no King and no law. God saw it and so began to lay some things down. Now, getting into the actual message itself, again, we need to keep in mind cultural views at the time. Women were a lot of times used as collateral and ‘bargaining chips’ when it came to marriage. In exchange for a wife, men or the man’s family would trade goods/money/etc… to the father. However, if a woman was not a virgin, the deal was pretty much off and she could forget about ever getting married. If a woman lost her virginity to rape, not only did that man take steal an emotional part of her away, he also took her future. This law was set in place so that if a woman did lose her virginity due to rape, that man would have to compensate her and her family because she was now worth very little to any potential husband. So again, cultural values are what is being discussed here, not values set by the Lord.
Leviticus 25:44
This is another verse that pertains to society at the time but I took the time to look it up to. In all three (different) versions of the bible I looked through, this verse is very different from what’s on the billboard. All it says in the three I looked at is something to the effect of you can buy slaves from foreign lands but you can’t force your own people into slavery. It’s a message you wouldn’t understand, though, if you only read that verse and not the ones before it. Again, this is a law set down simply to regulate the people of the time based on what they thought was okay. It’s not a direct commandment from God and in fact there are a few occasions where God has said in the bible that he does not like slavery. The point of these laws is that God knew people were going to do what they wanted regardless of what God had to say so the best he could do was regulate it.
Ezekiel 9:5
The whole book of Ezekiel is about visions that Ezekiel saw. In this particular one God had shown him a city and temple full of evil people who practiced “abominable” things and allowed demons and other monsters to “crawl about.” He is then commanded to wipe all of this out. Women were in on these practices as well as men and the children were taught to do the same to the point where there was probably no changing their up-bringing. It was an end all solution, but then again, it was only a vision or a ‘metaphor’ if you will for things that were to come later. It’s figurative, not literal.
Exodus 21:7
Another cultural thing. The message on the build board makes it sound like girls would never be released while the men would. This isn’t the case. When men were slaves, they had to work for seven years and then be released, but if a woman was a slave the man who bought her had to release her immediately and give the money back to whoever sold her if she wasn’t what he wanted her to be. He also had no right to re-sell her if he wanted to. It is explained later in these verses that this law was set in place in order to keep a guy from buying a woman slave, having his way with her once, and then selling her off to someone else or giving her back saying “Oh, she wasn’t what I wanted” because this is deceitful.
Ezekiel 21:33
God is speaking about a corrupt king who has committed many evil deeds and caused his children (the Israelites and such) much pain and sorrow. This is basically a war cry against an evil man who he plans to take down.
Numbers 25:4
Here, God is speaking about a few Israelites who started to commit sins against the Israelites and the Moab women of the surround region. They also started forming their own cults and such. Because he knows it is not everyone’s fault, just that of the groups who decided to do it, God is saying to Moses that he needs to take these criminals and put them out in the sun, away from everyone else so that his anger will only be turned against them and not everyone else around them too.
Yes. Without context these look pretty terrible… but if you actually took the time to see if that’s what was actually said, you’d find there’s a whole back story that you don’t know about which gives these verses entirely different meanings.
I am not trying to preach to you guys, I’m not trying to convince you of anything faith related, and I am by no means a biblical scholar. But I do know how to pick up a book and read what it actually has to say instead of picking out a few sentences and deciding that’s what the whole thing is about.
Please, don’t judge things (That goes for anything, not just this) until you actually know the full story.

THANK YOU.piixx:


#the best argument against the bible is the bible 

I don’t typically go out of my way to talk to people about things concerning my faith because it is a very personal subject for me. But I’m tired of people going “Oh, look, silly bible quotes that make God look terrible because I gave no context! Silly Christians!”
I would like to say that these are all seriously taken out of context. So I went through and tried to give a better understanding of what’s going on in each.
Please do me the favor of at least glancing at what I have to say. Even if you don’t believe in the Bible (or whatever), this isn’t really a case of theology. That’s not why I wrote it. This is a case of people jumping to conclusions without actually knowing what they’re talking about. 
Psalm 137:9
-In this psalm a prisoner has asked his captives to sing him a “Song of Zion.” The men sitting around become distressed because they have forgotten this song which should be dear to them. They start feeling terrible about it and begin talking about themselves in a sarcastic and mocking way. “Blessed is the one who grabs your little children and smashes them against a rock” is something they are saying about themselves. That the Lord is still good to them even though they continue to take what he has given them for granted, which they are comparing to smashing little children into rocks.
1 Timothy 2:12
For this one, the cultural roles of men and women should be taken into consideration at the time. Then, it was a man’s place to teach, not a woman’s. Most everything in the New Testament (Which the 1 and 2 Timothy are) are all just letters written to the churches from the apostles and so of course there are going to be cultural values put into what was taught then.
Deuteronomy 22:28
Alright, there’s a little more back story to this one but I won’t make it long. At this time, the tribes of Israel were wandering around doing whatever they wanted because they were out in the middle of the desert with no King and no law. God saw it and so began to lay some things down. Now, getting into the actual message itself, again, we need to keep in mind cultural views at the time. Women were a lot of times used as collateral and ‘bargaining chips’ when it came to marriage. In exchange for a wife, men or the man’s family would trade goods/money/etc… to the father. However, if a woman was not a virgin, the deal was pretty much off and she could forget about ever getting married. If a woman lost her virginity to rape, not only did that man take steal an emotional part of her away, he also took her future. This law was set in place so that if a woman did lose her virginity due to rape, that man would have to compensate her and her family because she was now worth very little to any potential husband. So again, cultural values are what is being discussed here, not values set by the Lord.
Leviticus 25:44
This is another verse that pertains to society at the time but I took the time to look it up to. In all three (different) versions of the bible I looked through, this verse is very different from what’s on the billboard. All it says in the three I looked at is something to the effect of you can buy slaves from foreign lands but you can’t force your own people into slavery. It’s a message you wouldn’t understand, though, if you only read that verse and not the ones before it. Again, this is a law set down simply to regulate the people of the time based on what they thought was okay. It’s not a direct commandment from God and in fact there are a few occasions where God has said in the bible that he does not like slavery. The point of these laws is that God knew people were going to do what they wanted regardless of what God had to say so the best he could do was regulate it.
Ezekiel 9:5
The whole book of Ezekiel is about visions that Ezekiel saw. In this particular one God had shown him a city and temple full of evil people who practiced “abominable” things and allowed demons and other monsters to “crawl about.” He is then commanded to wipe all of this out. Women were in on these practices as well as men and the children were taught to do the same to the point where there was probably no changing their up-bringing. It was an end all solution, but then again, it was only a vision or a ‘metaphor’ if you will for things that were to come later. It’s figurative, not literal.
Exodus 21:7
Another cultural thing. The message on the build board makes it sound like girls would never be released while the men would. This isn’t the case. When men were slaves, they had to work for seven years and then be released, but if a woman was a slave the man who bought her had to release her immediately and give the money back to whoever sold her if she wasn’t what he wanted her to be. He also had no right to re-sell her if he wanted to. It is explained later in these verses that this law was set in place in order to keep a guy from buying a woman slave, having his way with her once, and then selling her off to someone else or giving her back saying “Oh, she wasn’t what I wanted” because this is deceitful.
Ezekiel 21:33
God is speaking about a corrupt king who has committed many evil deeds and caused his children (the Israelites and such) much pain and sorrow. This is basically a war cry against an evil man who he plans to take down.
Numbers 25:4
Here, God is speaking about a few Israelites who started to commit sins against the Israelites and the Moab women of the surround region. They also started forming their own cults and such. Because he knows it is not everyone’s fault, just that of the groups who decided to do it, God is saying to Moses that he needs to take these criminals and put them out in the sun, away from everyone else so that his anger will only be turned against them and not everyone else around them too.
Yes. Without context these look pretty terrible… but if you actually took the time to see if that’s what was actually said, you’d find there’s a whole back story that you don’t know about which gives these verses entirely different meanings.
I am not trying to preach to you guys, I’m not trying to convince you of anything faith related, and I am by no means a biblical scholar. But I do know how to pick up a book and read what it actually has to say instead of picking out a few sentences and deciding that’s what the whole thing is about.
Please, don’t judge things (That goes for anything, not just this) until you actually know the full story.

THANK YOU.piixx:


#the best argument against the bible is the bible 

I don’t typically go out of my way to talk to people about things concerning my faith because it is a very personal subject for me. But I’m tired of people going “Oh, look, silly bible quotes that make God look terrible because I gave no context! Silly Christians!”
I would like to say that these are all seriously taken out of context. So I went through and tried to give a better understanding of what’s going on in each.
Please do me the favor of at least glancing at what I have to say. Even if you don’t believe in the Bible (or whatever), this isn’t really a case of theology. That’s not why I wrote it. This is a case of people jumping to conclusions without actually knowing what they’re talking about. 
Psalm 137:9
-In this psalm a prisoner has asked his captives to sing him a “Song of Zion.” The men sitting around become distressed because they have forgotten this song which should be dear to them. They start feeling terrible about it and begin talking about themselves in a sarcastic and mocking way. “Blessed is the one who grabs your little children and smashes them against a rock” is something they are saying about themselves. That the Lord is still good to them even though they continue to take what he has given them for granted, which they are comparing to smashing little children into rocks.
1 Timothy 2:12
For this one, the cultural roles of men and women should be taken into consideration at the time. Then, it was a man’s place to teach, not a woman’s. Most everything in the New Testament (Which the 1 and 2 Timothy are) are all just letters written to the churches from the apostles and so of course there are going to be cultural values put into what was taught then.
Deuteronomy 22:28
Alright, there’s a little more back story to this one but I won’t make it long. At this time, the tribes of Israel were wandering around doing whatever they wanted because they were out in the middle of the desert with no King and no law. God saw it and so began to lay some things down. Now, getting into the actual message itself, again, we need to keep in mind cultural views at the time. Women were a lot of times used as collateral and ‘bargaining chips’ when it came to marriage. In exchange for a wife, men or the man’s family would trade goods/money/etc… to the father. However, if a woman was not a virgin, the deal was pretty much off and she could forget about ever getting married. If a woman lost her virginity to rape, not only did that man take steal an emotional part of her away, he also took her future. This law was set in place so that if a woman did lose her virginity due to rape, that man would have to compensate her and her family because she was now worth very little to any potential husband. So again, cultural values are what is being discussed here, not values set by the Lord.
Leviticus 25:44
This is another verse that pertains to society at the time but I took the time to look it up to. In all three (different) versions of the bible I looked through, this verse is very different from what’s on the billboard. All it says in the three I looked at is something to the effect of you can buy slaves from foreign lands but you can’t force your own people into slavery. It’s a message you wouldn’t understand, though, if you only read that verse and not the ones before it. Again, this is a law set down simply to regulate the people of the time based on what they thought was okay. It’s not a direct commandment from God and in fact there are a few occasions where God has said in the bible that he does not like slavery. The point of these laws is that God knew people were going to do what they wanted regardless of what God had to say so the best he could do was regulate it.
Ezekiel 9:5
The whole book of Ezekiel is about visions that Ezekiel saw. In this particular one God had shown him a city and temple full of evil people who practiced “abominable” things and allowed demons and other monsters to “crawl about.” He is then commanded to wipe all of this out. Women were in on these practices as well as men and the children were taught to do the same to the point where there was probably no changing their up-bringing. It was an end all solution, but then again, it was only a vision or a ‘metaphor’ if you will for things that were to come later. It’s figurative, not literal.
Exodus 21:7
Another cultural thing. The message on the build board makes it sound like girls would never be released while the men would. This isn’t the case. When men were slaves, they had to work for seven years and then be released, but if a woman was a slave the man who bought her had to release her immediately and give the money back to whoever sold her if she wasn’t what he wanted her to be. He also had no right to re-sell her if he wanted to. It is explained later in these verses that this law was set in place in order to keep a guy from buying a woman slave, having his way with her once, and then selling her off to someone else or giving her back saying “Oh, she wasn’t what I wanted” because this is deceitful.
Ezekiel 21:33
God is speaking about a corrupt king who has committed many evil deeds and caused his children (the Israelites and such) much pain and sorrow. This is basically a war cry against an evil man who he plans to take down.
Numbers 25:4
Here, God is speaking about a few Israelites who started to commit sins against the Israelites and the Moab women of the surround region. They also started forming their own cults and such. Because he knows it is not everyone’s fault, just that of the groups who decided to do it, God is saying to Moses that he needs to take these criminals and put them out in the sun, away from everyone else so that his anger will only be turned against them and not everyone else around them too.
Yes. Without context these look pretty terrible… but if you actually took the time to see if that’s what was actually said, you’d find there’s a whole back story that you don’t know about which gives these verses entirely different meanings.
I am not trying to preach to you guys, I’m not trying to convince you of anything faith related, and I am by no means a biblical scholar. But I do know how to pick up a book and read what it actually has to say instead of picking out a few sentences and deciding that’s what the whole thing is about.
Please, don’t judge things (That goes for anything, not just this) until you actually know the full story.

THANK YOU.piixx:


#the best argument against the bible is the bible 

I don’t typically go out of my way to talk to people about things concerning my faith because it is a very personal subject for me. But I’m tired of people going “Oh, look, silly bible quotes that make God look terrible because I gave no context! Silly Christians!”
I would like to say that these are all seriously taken out of context. So I went through and tried to give a better understanding of what’s going on in each.
Please do me the favor of at least glancing at what I have to say. Even if you don’t believe in the Bible (or whatever), this isn’t really a case of theology. That’s not why I wrote it. This is a case of people jumping to conclusions without actually knowing what they’re talking about. 
Psalm 137:9
-In this psalm a prisoner has asked his captives to sing him a “Song of Zion.” The men sitting around become distressed because they have forgotten this song which should be dear to them. They start feeling terrible about it and begin talking about themselves in a sarcastic and mocking way. “Blessed is the one who grabs your little children and smashes them against a rock” is something they are saying about themselves. That the Lord is still good to them even though they continue to take what he has given them for granted, which they are comparing to smashing little children into rocks.
1 Timothy 2:12
For this one, the cultural roles of men and women should be taken into consideration at the time. Then, it was a man’s place to teach, not a woman’s. Most everything in the New Testament (Which the 1 and 2 Timothy are) are all just letters written to the churches from the apostles and so of course there are going to be cultural values put into what was taught then.
Deuteronomy 22:28
Alright, there’s a little more back story to this one but I won’t make it long. At this time, the tribes of Israel were wandering around doing whatever they wanted because they were out in the middle of the desert with no King and no law. God saw it and so began to lay some things down. Now, getting into the actual message itself, again, we need to keep in mind cultural views at the time. Women were a lot of times used as collateral and ‘bargaining chips’ when it came to marriage. In exchange for a wife, men or the man’s family would trade goods/money/etc… to the father. However, if a woman was not a virgin, the deal was pretty much off and she could forget about ever getting married. If a woman lost her virginity to rape, not only did that man take steal an emotional part of her away, he also took her future. This law was set in place so that if a woman did lose her virginity due to rape, that man would have to compensate her and her family because she was now worth very little to any potential husband. So again, cultural values are what is being discussed here, not values set by the Lord.
Leviticus 25:44
This is another verse that pertains to society at the time but I took the time to look it up to. In all three (different) versions of the bible I looked through, this verse is very different from what’s on the billboard. All it says in the three I looked at is something to the effect of you can buy slaves from foreign lands but you can’t force your own people into slavery. It’s a message you wouldn’t understand, though, if you only read that verse and not the ones before it. Again, this is a law set down simply to regulate the people of the time based on what they thought was okay. It’s not a direct commandment from God and in fact there are a few occasions where God has said in the bible that he does not like slavery. The point of these laws is that God knew people were going to do what they wanted regardless of what God had to say so the best he could do was regulate it.
Ezekiel 9:5
The whole book of Ezekiel is about visions that Ezekiel saw. In this particular one God had shown him a city and temple full of evil people who practiced “abominable” things and allowed demons and other monsters to “crawl about.” He is then commanded to wipe all of this out. Women were in on these practices as well as men and the children were taught to do the same to the point where there was probably no changing their up-bringing. It was an end all solution, but then again, it was only a vision or a ‘metaphor’ if you will for things that were to come later. It’s figurative, not literal.
Exodus 21:7
Another cultural thing. The message on the build board makes it sound like girls would never be released while the men would. This isn’t the case. When men were slaves, they had to work for seven years and then be released, but if a woman was a slave the man who bought her had to release her immediately and give the money back to whoever sold her if she wasn’t what he wanted her to be. He also had no right to re-sell her if he wanted to. It is explained later in these verses that this law was set in place in order to keep a guy from buying a woman slave, having his way with her once, and then selling her off to someone else or giving her back saying “Oh, she wasn’t what I wanted” because this is deceitful.
Ezekiel 21:33
God is speaking about a corrupt king who has committed many evil deeds and caused his children (the Israelites and such) much pain and sorrow. This is basically a war cry against an evil man who he plans to take down.
Numbers 25:4
Here, God is speaking about a few Israelites who started to commit sins against the Israelites and the Moab women of the surround region. They also started forming their own cults and such. Because he knows it is not everyone’s fault, just that of the groups who decided to do it, God is saying to Moses that he needs to take these criminals and put them out in the sun, away from everyone else so that his anger will only be turned against them and not everyone else around them too.
Yes. Without context these look pretty terrible… but if you actually took the time to see if that’s what was actually said, you’d find there’s a whole back story that you don’t know about which gives these verses entirely different meanings.
I am not trying to preach to you guys, I’m not trying to convince you of anything faith related, and I am by no means a biblical scholar. But I do know how to pick up a book and read what it actually has to say instead of picking out a few sentences and deciding that’s what the whole thing is about.
Please, don’t judge things (That goes for anything, not just this) until you actually know the full story.

THANK YOU.piixx:


#the best argument against the bible is the bible 

I don’t typically go out of my way to talk to people about things concerning my faith because it is a very personal subject for me. But I’m tired of people going “Oh, look, silly bible quotes that make God look terrible because I gave no context! Silly Christians!”
I would like to say that these are all seriously taken out of context. So I went through and tried to give a better understanding of what’s going on in each.
Please do me the favor of at least glancing at what I have to say. Even if you don’t believe in the Bible (or whatever), this isn’t really a case of theology. That’s not why I wrote it. This is a case of people jumping to conclusions without actually knowing what they’re talking about. 
Psalm 137:9
-In this psalm a prisoner has asked his captives to sing him a “Song of Zion.” The men sitting around become distressed because they have forgotten this song which should be dear to them. They start feeling terrible about it and begin talking about themselves in a sarcastic and mocking way. “Blessed is the one who grabs your little children and smashes them against a rock” is something they are saying about themselves. That the Lord is still good to them even though they continue to take what he has given them for granted, which they are comparing to smashing little children into rocks.
1 Timothy 2:12
For this one, the cultural roles of men and women should be taken into consideration at the time. Then, it was a man’s place to teach, not a woman’s. Most everything in the New Testament (Which the 1 and 2 Timothy are) are all just letters written to the churches from the apostles and so of course there are going to be cultural values put into what was taught then.
Deuteronomy 22:28
Alright, there’s a little more back story to this one but I won’t make it long. At this time, the tribes of Israel were wandering around doing whatever they wanted because they were out in the middle of the desert with no King and no law. God saw it and so began to lay some things down. Now, getting into the actual message itself, again, we need to keep in mind cultural views at the time. Women were a lot of times used as collateral and ‘bargaining chips’ when it came to marriage. In exchange for a wife, men or the man’s family would trade goods/money/etc… to the father. However, if a woman was not a virgin, the deal was pretty much off and she could forget about ever getting married. If a woman lost her virginity to rape, not only did that man take steal an emotional part of her away, he also took her future. This law was set in place so that if a woman did lose her virginity due to rape, that man would have to compensate her and her family because she was now worth very little to any potential husband. So again, cultural values are what is being discussed here, not values set by the Lord.
Leviticus 25:44
This is another verse that pertains to society at the time but I took the time to look it up to. In all three (different) versions of the bible I looked through, this verse is very different from what’s on the billboard. All it says in the three I looked at is something to the effect of you can buy slaves from foreign lands but you can’t force your own people into slavery. It’s a message you wouldn’t understand, though, if you only read that verse and not the ones before it. Again, this is a law set down simply to regulate the people of the time based on what they thought was okay. It’s not a direct commandment from God and in fact there are a few occasions where God has said in the bible that he does not like slavery. The point of these laws is that God knew people were going to do what they wanted regardless of what God had to say so the best he could do was regulate it.
Ezekiel 9:5
The whole book of Ezekiel is about visions that Ezekiel saw. In this particular one God had shown him a city and temple full of evil people who practiced “abominable” things and allowed demons and other monsters to “crawl about.” He is then commanded to wipe all of this out. Women were in on these practices as well as men and the children were taught to do the same to the point where there was probably no changing their up-bringing. It was an end all solution, but then again, it was only a vision or a ‘metaphor’ if you will for things that were to come later. It’s figurative, not literal.
Exodus 21:7
Another cultural thing. The message on the build board makes it sound like girls would never be released while the men would. This isn’t the case. When men were slaves, they had to work for seven years and then be released, but if a woman was a slave the man who bought her had to release her immediately and give the money back to whoever sold her if she wasn’t what he wanted her to be. He also had no right to re-sell her if he wanted to. It is explained later in these verses that this law was set in place in order to keep a guy from buying a woman slave, having his way with her once, and then selling her off to someone else or giving her back saying “Oh, she wasn’t what I wanted” because this is deceitful.
Ezekiel 21:33
God is speaking about a corrupt king who has committed many evil deeds and caused his children (the Israelites and such) much pain and sorrow. This is basically a war cry against an evil man who he plans to take down.
Numbers 25:4
Here, God is speaking about a few Israelites who started to commit sins against the Israelites and the Moab women of the surround region. They also started forming their own cults and such. Because he knows it is not everyone’s fault, just that of the groups who decided to do it, God is saying to Moses that he needs to take these criminals and put them out in the sun, away from everyone else so that his anger will only be turned against them and not everyone else around them too.
Yes. Without context these look pretty terrible… but if you actually took the time to see if that’s what was actually said, you’d find there’s a whole back story that you don’t know about which gives these verses entirely different meanings.
I am not trying to preach to you guys, I’m not trying to convince you of anything faith related, and I am by no means a biblical scholar. But I do know how to pick up a book and read what it actually has to say instead of picking out a few sentences and deciding that’s what the whole thing is about.
Please, don’t judge things (That goes for anything, not just this) until you actually know the full story.

THANK YOU.piixx:


#the best argument against the bible is the bible 

I don’t typically go out of my way to talk to people about things concerning my faith because it is a very personal subject for me. But I’m tired of people going “Oh, look, silly bible quotes that make God look terrible because I gave no context! Silly Christians!”
I would like to say that these are all seriously taken out of context. So I went through and tried to give a better understanding of what’s going on in each.
Please do me the favor of at least glancing at what I have to say. Even if you don’t believe in the Bible (or whatever), this isn’t really a case of theology. That’s not why I wrote it. This is a case of people jumping to conclusions without actually knowing what they’re talking about. 
Psalm 137:9
-In this psalm a prisoner has asked his captives to sing him a “Song of Zion.” The men sitting around become distressed because they have forgotten this song which should be dear to them. They start feeling terrible about it and begin talking about themselves in a sarcastic and mocking way. “Blessed is the one who grabs your little children and smashes them against a rock” is something they are saying about themselves. That the Lord is still good to them even though they continue to take what he has given them for granted, which they are comparing to smashing little children into rocks.
1 Timothy 2:12
For this one, the cultural roles of men and women should be taken into consideration at the time. Then, it was a man’s place to teach, not a woman’s. Most everything in the New Testament (Which the 1 and 2 Timothy are) are all just letters written to the churches from the apostles and so of course there are going to be cultural values put into what was taught then.
Deuteronomy 22:28
Alright, there’s a little more back story to this one but I won’t make it long. At this time, the tribes of Israel were wandering around doing whatever they wanted because they were out in the middle of the desert with no King and no law. God saw it and so began to lay some things down. Now, getting into the actual message itself, again, we need to keep in mind cultural views at the time. Women were a lot of times used as collateral and ‘bargaining chips’ when it came to marriage. In exchange for a wife, men or the man’s family would trade goods/money/etc… to the father. However, if a woman was not a virgin, the deal was pretty much off and she could forget about ever getting married. If a woman lost her virginity to rape, not only did that man take steal an emotional part of her away, he also took her future. This law was set in place so that if a woman did lose her virginity due to rape, that man would have to compensate her and her family because she was now worth very little to any potential husband. So again, cultural values are what is being discussed here, not values set by the Lord.
Leviticus 25:44
This is another verse that pertains to society at the time but I took the time to look it up to. In all three (different) versions of the bible I looked through, this verse is very different from what’s on the billboard. All it says in the three I looked at is something to the effect of you can buy slaves from foreign lands but you can’t force your own people into slavery. It’s a message you wouldn’t understand, though, if you only read that verse and not the ones before it. Again, this is a law set down simply to regulate the people of the time based on what they thought was okay. It’s not a direct commandment from God and in fact there are a few occasions where God has said in the bible that he does not like slavery. The point of these laws is that God knew people were going to do what they wanted regardless of what God had to say so the best he could do was regulate it.
Ezekiel 9:5
The whole book of Ezekiel is about visions that Ezekiel saw. In this particular one God had shown him a city and temple full of evil people who practiced “abominable” things and allowed demons and other monsters to “crawl about.” He is then commanded to wipe all of this out. Women were in on these practices as well as men and the children were taught to do the same to the point where there was probably no changing their up-bringing. It was an end all solution, but then again, it was only a vision or a ‘metaphor’ if you will for things that were to come later. It’s figurative, not literal.
Exodus 21:7
Another cultural thing. The message on the build board makes it sound like girls would never be released while the men would. This isn’t the case. When men were slaves, they had to work for seven years and then be released, but if a woman was a slave the man who bought her had to release her immediately and give the money back to whoever sold her if she wasn’t what he wanted her to be. He also had no right to re-sell her if he wanted to. It is explained later in these verses that this law was set in place in order to keep a guy from buying a woman slave, having his way with her once, and then selling her off to someone else or giving her back saying “Oh, she wasn’t what I wanted” because this is deceitful.
Ezekiel 21:33
God is speaking about a corrupt king who has committed many evil deeds and caused his children (the Israelites and such) much pain and sorrow. This is basically a war cry against an evil man who he plans to take down.
Numbers 25:4
Here, God is speaking about a few Israelites who started to commit sins against the Israelites and the Moab women of the surround region. They also started forming their own cults and such. Because he knows it is not everyone’s fault, just that of the groups who decided to do it, God is saying to Moses that he needs to take these criminals and put them out in the sun, away from everyone else so that his anger will only be turned against them and not everyone else around them too.
Yes. Without context these look pretty terrible… but if you actually took the time to see if that’s what was actually said, you’d find there’s a whole back story that you don’t know about which gives these verses entirely different meanings.
I am not trying to preach to you guys, I’m not trying to convince you of anything faith related, and I am by no means a biblical scholar. But I do know how to pick up a book and read what it actually has to say instead of picking out a few sentences and deciding that’s what the whole thing is about.
Please, don’t judge things (That goes for anything, not just this) until you actually know the full story.

THANK YOU.

piixx:

#the best argument against the bible is the bible 

I don’t typically go out of my way to talk to people about things concerning my faith because it is a very personal subject for me. But I’m tired of people going “Oh, look, silly bible quotes that make God look terrible because I gave no context! Silly Christians!”

I would like to say that these are all seriously taken out of context. So I went through and tried to give a better understanding of what’s going on in each.

Please do me the favor of at least glancing at what I have to say. Even if you don’t believe in the Bible (or whatever), this isn’t really a case of theology. That’s not why I wrote it. This is a case of people jumping to conclusions without actually knowing what they’re talking about.

Psalm 137:9

-In this psalm a prisoner has asked his captives to sing him a “Song of Zion.” The men sitting around become distressed because they have forgotten this song which should be dear to them. They start feeling terrible about it and begin talking about themselves in a sarcastic and mocking way. “Blessed is the one who grabs your little children and smashes them against a rock” is something they are saying about themselves. That the Lord is still good to them even though they continue to take what he has given them for granted, which they are comparing to smashing little children into rocks.

1 Timothy 2:12

For this one, the cultural roles of men and women should be taken into consideration at the time. Then, it was a man’s place to teach, not a woman’s. Most everything in the New Testament (Which the 1 and 2 Timothy are) are all just letters written to the churches from the apostles and so of course there are going to be cultural values put into what was taught then.

Deuteronomy 22:28

Alright, there’s a little more back story to this one but I won’t make it long. At this time, the tribes of Israel were wandering around doing whatever they wanted because they were out in the middle of the desert with no King and no law. God saw it and so began to lay some things down. Now, getting into the actual message itself, again, we need to keep in mind cultural views at the time. Women were a lot of times used as collateral and ‘bargaining chips’ when it came to marriage. In exchange for a wife, men or the man’s family would trade goods/money/etc… to the father. However, if a woman was not a virgin, the deal was pretty much off and she could forget about ever getting married. If a woman lost her virginity to rape, not only did that man take steal an emotional part of her away, he also took her future. This law was set in place so that if a woman did lose her virginity due to rape, that man would have to compensate her and her family because she was now worth very little to any potential husband. So again, cultural values are what is being discussed here, not values set by the Lord.

Leviticus 25:44

This is another verse that pertains to society at the time but I took the time to look it up to. In all three (different) versions of the bible I looked through, this verse is very different from what’s on the billboard. All it says in the three I looked at is something to the effect of you can buy slaves from foreign lands but you can’t force your own people into slavery. It’s a message you wouldn’t understand, though, if you only read that verse and not the ones before it. Again, this is a law set down simply to regulate the people of the time based on what they thought was okay. It’s not a direct commandment from God and in fact there are a few occasions where God has said in the bible that he does not like slavery. The point of these laws is that God knew people were going to do what they wanted regardless of what God had to say so the best he could do was regulate it.

Ezekiel 9:5

The whole book of Ezekiel is about visions that Ezekiel saw. In this particular one God had shown him a city and temple full of evil people who practiced “abominable” things and allowed demons and other monsters to “crawl about.” He is then commanded to wipe all of this out. Women were in on these practices as well as men and the children were taught to do the same to the point where there was probably no changing their up-bringing. It was an end all solution, but then again, it was only a vision or a ‘metaphor’ if you will for things that were to come later. It’s figurative, not literal.

Exodus 21:7

Another cultural thing. The message on the build board makes it sound like girls would never be released while the men would. This isn’t the case. When men were slaves, they had to work for seven years and then be released, but if a woman was a slave the man who bought her had to release her immediately and give the money back to whoever sold her if she wasn’t what he wanted her to be. He also had no right to re-sell her if he wanted to. It is explained later in these verses that this law was set in place in order to keep a guy from buying a woman slave, having his way with her once, and then selling her off to someone else or giving her back saying “Oh, she wasn’t what I wanted” because this is deceitful.

Ezekiel 21:33

God is speaking about a corrupt king who has committed many evil deeds and caused his children (the Israelites and such) much pain and sorrow. This is basically a war cry against an evil man who he plans to take down.

Numbers 25:4

Here, God is speaking about a few Israelites who started to commit sins against the Israelites and the Moab women of the surround region. They also started forming their own cults and such. Because he knows it is not everyone’s fault, just that of the groups who decided to do it, God is saying to Moses that he needs to take these criminals and put them out in the sun, away from everyone else so that his anger will only be turned against them and not everyone else around them too.

Yes. Without context these look pretty terrible… but if you actually took the time to see if that’s what was actually said, you’d find there’s a whole back story that you don’t know about which gives these verses entirely different meanings.

I am not trying to preach to you guys, I’m not trying to convince you of anything faith related, and I am by no means a biblical scholar. But I do know how to pick up a book and read what it actually has to say instead of picking out a few sentences and deciding that’s what the whole thing is about.

Please, don’t judge things (That goes for anything, not just this) until you actually know the full story.

THANK YOU.

(Source: mc-xc)


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We need to hit 10000 signatures before August 11 this year! The petition would then be sent to the White House to be considered for legislation!

Please sign and reblog!

-Ian


Homosexuality is NOT a sin, pure and simple.


Gay Christian: What is a Christian?(Repost) →

gaychristian:

That is to say: What do they look like?

I say, boldly, that Crusaders, many of the Medieval, Renaissance, and 18th century *popes(Urban II who called the Crusades), and modern day Fundamentalists are not Christians. Now I’m not saying that they are all going to hell(thats God’s place, not…


In case you were curious:

I keep posting HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A SIN and linking it with ‘A Letter To Louise’(http://www.godmademegay.com/Letter.htm) because that document goes in far more depth and clarity than I have previously! But if you want to talk to me(Ian) or Andrew, just give us an ‘ask’!

- Ian =)


What is a Christian?

That is to say: What do they look like?

I say, boldly, that Crusaders, many of the Medieval, Renaissance, and 18th century *popes(Urban II who called the Crusades), and modern day Fundamentalists are not Christians. Now I’m not saying that they are all going to hell(thats God’s place, not mine), but I can say that they do not reflect Christs love in much/most of what they do.

So to establish what Christians are we must look at Scripture:

A Christian:

  1. (Matt. 26:33-40) Jesus replied: “’Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.”
  2. (Matt 6:19) Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.”
  3. (1 John 4:)“ Dear friends, let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.”
  4. Matt. (18:21-22) “Then Peter came up and said to him, ‘Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?’ Jesus said to him, ‘I do not say to you seven times, but seventy times seven.’ “
  5. (Matt 7:1) Judge not, lest you be judged.”

Essentially, a Christian loves everyone, always forgives, never judges, isn’t materialistic, and loves God over all. Christ says in John 14:15,”If you love me, you will obey what I command.” Or, at least, they try too; and they repent when he/she fails too to do what they should, knowing that God’s love will forgive them(though they will have to deal with the consequences of their actions on Earth).

This criteria establishes a simple, Biblical criteria for what a Christian is and must challenge the idea of a biggoted, uneducated hate-mongerer as being the stereotype for Christians. This criteria also makes it apparent that, despite statistics, there aren’t as many Christians as is believed.

Food for Thought

*(I am not saying that ALL Popes failed as Christians)


They ignore the parts of the New Testament too.

From 1 Corinthians 11:3-9

11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

11:4 Every man praying or prophesying, having his head covered, dishonoureth his head.

11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as if she were shaven.

11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn: but if it be a shame for a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be covered.

11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

11:8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.

11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

Translation: women are inferior to men and were created for men, therefore they are the property of men.

From Romans 1:26-27

1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Here, the “natural use of the women” that Paul refers to means a sex object for men. This is a popular Christian verse for speaking out against homosexuality, but the ignore the part about the “natural use”.

I think we can also conclude that Paul basically just hates everyone who doesn’t conform to his perfect bubble of morality. Forget Jesus, Christianity was invented by Paul - the greatest spin doctor of all time.

From 1 Corinthians 14:34-35

14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.

14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

How can women be so devout in a religion that treats them like a piece of shit beneath the feet of men?

More importantly, why do you keep trying to justify, legitimize and rationalize something so hateful as accepting of gays? Why would you want anything to do with this religion? from tobiasgh-deactivated20121011

 1 Corinthians 11:3-9

Thereason Paul keeps refering to “covering your head” is that it was a symbol of submission, and in the Early Church the men were leaders and administrators within the Church (as was the norm in most all societies and cultures in that time). Women, however, were left to nuture and tend to domestic matters. And never are they restricted from teaching other women, children, or prophisying at all, only in matters regarding having leadership over men. It is obvious to me that this relationship reflects that of our/the Church’s relationship as the Bride of Christ and also seems to be a division of labour; where Men preach in Church and provide fatherly leadership for it, while the women provide a nuturing, motherly element!

This is clearly not sexist. Let me put it this way: Would you call a custodian qualified to teach a classroom? Or a teacher to mop up floors?

No. It doesn’t make sense.

Not that the custodian isn’t neccesarily untalented or useless, he’s just not qualified to teach a class. He has another job. Same with the teacher.

And when Paul says in chapter 11:8 “For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man”, he is not saying that the woman is inferor! He is refering to how God took Adam’s rib in the poem of creation and made Eve out of it. Also note how women are the “glory of man” in 11:7, and in Ephesians 5:25 where Paul says “Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her”. He is obviously not sexist, he doesn’t ordain women to “women be so devout in a religion that treats them like a piece of shit beneath the feet of men?” You would have to take a blindly biased stance to translate this passage as “women are inferior to men and were created for men, therefore they are the property of men.” That statement is overtly incorrect.

Romans 1:26-27

I’ve responded to this ad nauseum so I refer you to the following:

  1. http://www.soulforce.org/article/homosexuality-bible-gay-christian
  2. http://www.religioustolerance.org/homarsen.htm

1 Corinthians 14:34-35

Same answer as top.

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Why do I defend my faith? Because there’s nothing wrong with it! It’s a very sensible religion if you know anything about the background of the writers of the Bible, ancient Old World history, or about Biblical context! It’s very clear, having put in a little effort, that the Bible and Christianity is hardly hateful. It’s simple, loving, comforting, and (sometimes) brutally honest.

Sure, there were/are people that hijacked it for their own vile, corrupt purposes and warped it until it wasn’t even Christianity/about Christ anymore, but it never died out. There were/are saints and other individuals who knew Christ wasn’t about Crusades and Inquisition! There were those who knew that Christ was all about love and forgiveness and that what the “church” was giving them must be false!

So Christians, even since they were persecuted under Nero and Caiaphas, always have remained a minority while grotesque and vomitous “christian churches”(I say that dubiously and angrily) ran rampant and grew like a cancerous tumour on humanity.

I provided you with the criteria of what Christ and the Bible say what Christians look like and what the Church does, I think that should help you define what ‘Christians’ are and are not!