• Conservative: I love you so I'm going to vote 'no' on gay marriage.
  • Gay Christian: Oh thank you! I was worried I might end up in a happily committed and Christ-centred relationship with my would-be spouse of the same sex! God bless you for selflessly treating His children, including myself, differently based on what you personally approve of regardless of whether or not your beliefs are even remotely founded on Scripture!

By Jacob Combs

*SB 1172 (“Ant Ex gay Therapy Bill”) was a bill I had lobbied for in February and March. -Ian

By a 5-2 vote, the California General Assembly’s Committee on Business, Professions and Consumer Protection approved a proposed bill that would ban the use of “reparative therapy,” a counseling method designed to ‘cure’ gay kids, on minors.  The bill passed the California Senate in late May with a 23-13 vote, and will now head to the full Assembly.

Writing about the bill’s passage in the Senate, San Diego Gay & Lesbian News notedthat the California legislation is the first of its kind in the nation:

If approved by the Assembly and signed by the Governor, Senate Bill 1172, authored by Senator Ted Lieu and co-sponsored by Equality California, the National Center for Lesbian Rights, Mental Health America of Northern California, Gaylesta, and Lambda Legal, would make California the first state in the nation to ban licensed mental health professionals from engaging in sexual orientation change efforts of any kind for a minor patient, regardless of a parent’s willingness or desire to authorize participation in such programs.

“Being lesbian or gay or bisexual is not a disease or mental disorder for the same reason that being a heterosexual is not a disease or a mental disorder,” Lieu said. “The medical community is unanimous in stating that homosexuality is not a medical condition.”

As Joe.My.God. reports, right wingers are sounding the alarm:

“A licensed clinical social worker, a psychologist, a psychiatrist—no one who’s licensed to perform counseling would be permitted, by law if this bill passes, to help a child decrease their same-sex attraction issue,” said Ron Prentice, executive director of the California Family Council.

That’s why six major professional groups oppose the bill.

“One (reason) would be religious liberty. Another would be self-determination of a client,” he said. “And there is absolutely no research which suggests that same-sex attraction is either genetic or that it is fixed and can’t be changed.”

When the California Assembly considers the bill, we’ll be sure to have coverage of the outcome here at P8TT!


If you have same-sex attractions, don’t get down on yourself. The Bible does not condemn you or normal, loving same-sex relationships..

Click the link to read the packet I wrote to better understand Homosexuality and what the Bible says about it.

Please reblog, you never know who it might help.




Seriously, Printing this interview out. 

What an encouraging and enlightening post!

Everyone here should check out GCN! It’s much more moderate than GCI (we are by nature strictly Side-A writers), but it’s still a really good resource and very professional.




If you’re of voting age and happen to be in favor of marriage equality, here is our PSA about Referendum (R) 74 and Initiative (I) 1192.

R-74 is a referendum focused on putting gay marriage as a popular vote. Doesn’t sound so bad, right? It almost sounds like it’s in favor of marriage…

For Washington State Residents, read this to understand and receive clarification regarding R-74!

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Sexual Morality: Beyond the “Gay Debate”

This isn’t the first time I’ve gotten these questions. That (after acknowledging that the Bible does not in fact condemn homosexual relationships) what do we do with our God given sexuality then? More recently I’ve receive this question:

How does our sexuality play in a Christian context? No sex before marriage? What if we cannot get married? What is marriage anyways? How do we apply biblical standards for marriage/sexuality when it is framed in a heteronormative context?

I (Ian) am going to be brutally honest to all of you on the second part of this question-series… I don’t know if sex before marriage is a sin. I have heard two solid arguments for abstinence and one against having to wait as long as it might take! But currently I choose to endorse traditional interpretation as it offers the potential of less heartbreak and is the safer course of conduct in light of STD’s. But that does not mean I necessarily regard the alternate position as sinful. My position on the matter has yet to take a solid stance.

My opinion does not necessarily reflect my co-writers’ opinions, nor is this GC’s official statement on premarital sex.

What is Marriage? Marriage is outlined as a covenant before God. A vow of both actions and words, in a monogamous pledge to honour and love your partner. The state has nothing to do with the matter. All the state can do is give you tax-benefits as a way of promoting the family-unit. In my opinion, the state should offer civil unions to both heterosexual and homosexual couples leaving the definition of “marriage” to religious and faith-based organizations.

If you cannot legally get married, I suggest you get a “Bible Marriage”. A “Bible Marriage” is a purely religious ceremony where you can get married in a Church and be recognized before it and God (who is the only person you need in recognition of you and your would-be fiance).

Taking marriage out of a heteronormative context (from 1 Peter 3. I sincerely believe Peter had no intention of being exclusionary for the record), you apply the same rule for both and husbands and wives to both partners. In order to respect, honour, and love each other in Christ-centred matrimony.

As for both partners being Christian, I truly see no harm in dating non-Christians. I myself am dating an atheist currently! So long as the other partner doesn’t seek to guide you away from what is right or undo your faith, there is no harm, in my opinion, in dating someone of another faith (or who has a lack thereof). However, if your standard is to date another Christian then you needn’t compromise! The patience of waiting for a Christian man/woman is something to be proud of!

I hope this helps those whom it may concern! Happy Easter and God Bless!



What Would Jesus Do: why the church’s militant stance against same-sex marriage makes me sad.


Recently, the mainstream UK evangelical church has come out in force to fight against the proposed legalisation of same-sex marriage – creating petitions, reading letters in Sunday services that mobilise members to action, presenting a high profile media voice via newspaper columns and controversial advertisements, and so on. Most recently, the Evangelical Alliance made their mark, with a video and accompanying document on the topic. I have already addressed the specific arguments against same-sex marriage in a series of earlier blog posts. Today I wanted to talk about my emotional response to reading these resources: sadness.


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Loving Side-B(Celibate Gay Christians)

*Side-B friends, please understand that I only pouring out my heart in the most honest and transparent way I can. YIC -Ian

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justificationbyfaith-deactivate said: I hear it said pretty frequently in the side A camp that homosexual sex is alright within a committed, loving, non-exploitative relationship but I never hear anyone say within a marriage (I'd assume because most of the time its not possible to get married). It does make me wonder tho if side A theology sees marriage as a necessary pre-req to sex? Is gay marriage simply a matter of equal rights or do u think God mandates that gays seal relationships with marriage too?

The reason you’ll rarely hear marriage brought up as a  pre-req, is because it’s so uncommon on a global scale (only about 7 US states and a handful of countries recognize equal marriage or have civil unions). But I would say (speaking from my own opinion), that being in what would constitute a common-law marriage (as in being a relationship for that amount of time; 2-7 years) is long enough to commence sexual relationship. HOWEVER, I encourage every gay Christian to find out what God wants for them after much prayer if they do not live in  a state where legal union is recognized. I admit my opinion here may be flawed about having sex outside of a legal marriage, so definitely meditate on Scripture before you make any decision that may influence your relationship with your spouse or God.

Alternatively you could just go to a state or country where marriage licenses are offered to same-sex couples and then the question solves itself.






The bible says a lot of things - and whether you believe in its words or not - selective portions of it shouldn’t be used to manipulate the government into oppressing ANYONE


Relevant to any time anyone props up the Bible — particularly Exodus — as an excuse for hate and ignorance.

 Martin Sheen makes me do backflips, just for being who he is in general.

(Sidenote: *Contrary to popular belief the Bible mentions homosexuality never in a normal context; always in a debauched context. Except in Matt. 19 where Jesus mentions ‘born eunuchs’, the Syriac way of saying someone who wasn’t attracted to women from birth.)


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